Heheh, damn i can't watch the video so can't comment really.
Hope you can get permission, i would love to watch it.
Interesting

the videos were taken away again from bondle.de after a couple of hours, because the german film festival wants to show them to live audiences as a premiere on two more occasions, before having them available on the Internet.

i hope the online versions will be available again in march.

the people who did get to see them earlier today were sort of lucky....

Jeroen wrote:

the videos were taken away again from bondle.de after a couple of hours, because the german film festival wants to show them to live audiences as a premiere on two more occasions, before having them available on the Internet.

Hopefully the festival audience will appreaciate a good joke

Hi all, I just set the new world record freefall descent in a paddleboat. They call me the Phantom of the Adirondacks, because I always brag about the crazy runs I've done, but nobody ever sees it. I've run Niagara Falls, you know, maybe 6 or 7 times, and boofed drops up to 125 feet. I'll have some video shortly, but in the meantime, just search \"big waterfall\" on google images, and you can see me as a little speck on all of them.

I so did you land flat or on your head?

I think we can't make any judgement until to watch the main version of the video...That is my opinion...

Hey dumbheads

the Waterfall World Record is real and official.
There are some paddlers that paddle to hard so they have to do it on their own.
No one will follow.
Some of them are sponsored and have to publish their stuff for keeping their contracts.
The others just do it for fun and just for their self.
Thats the difference!
Thats the reason why Felix Lämmler is called \"The phantom of the Alps\" for years now.
So dont think sponsorship makes a better paddler.
Just more fame!

Dont forget: High quality hairboating does not depend on sponsorship and a perfect equiped videographer.

World record drops have to be run in a bat man suit. Every idiot knows that.

IvanDrago wrote:

Thats the reason why Felix Lämmler is called \"The phantom of the Alps\" for years now.
So dont think sponsorship makes a better paddler.
Just more fame!

I think you missed the point entirely. No one is questioning Felix's credibility, just that the videos published doesn't proof the world record claim. I was quite exited that some one had run a big drop and became anxious to see the footage. It was a little bit of a dissapointment that it was just a joke.

It's pretty clear that the video is made just to wind up people. I won't bite that bait anymore.

Well Corran had the unofficial record and even by todays standards it's a huge drop. Many years ago, 1987 to be exact! Tignes Falls in France. Some interesting links to read if you have the time or inclination. Respect.

www.2imagine.net/blogger2006/dwaars.html

playak.com/article.php?sid=14

www.eruditium.org/pete/fear.html

What about

CONGRATULATIONS TO FELIX LÄMMLER TO BE THE NEW WATERFALL WORLD RECORD HOLDER

instead of disbelief to his achievement as a extreme paddler?

He did it twice!

Iwas lucky enough to be at the film festivl on the weekend and saw the footage of felix hucking off that drop.

Respect. Not for running it in the first place. No. Respect coz he ran it again like a week later as he didn't nail his line the first time!!!

AdrianTregoning wrote:

Well Corran had the unofficial record and even by todays standards it's a huge drop. Many years ago, 1987 to be exact! Tignes Falls in France. Some interesting links to read if you have the time or inclination. Respect.

www.2imagine.net/blogger2006/dwaars.html

playak.com/article.php?sid=14

www.eruditium.org/pete/fear.html

Great links, especially the first one.

Saddle-Up,
Boe

Best one asks the notary that it confirmed. Thus this discussion has probably ends. Yours sincerely Armin

neilnt wrote:

Iwas lucky enough to be at the film festivl on the weekend and saw the footage of felix hucking off that drop.

Respect. Not for running it in the first place. No. Respect coz he ran it again like a week later as he didn't nail his line the first time!!!

How clear was the footage at the film festival? I haven't seen the video but am eager to see it. Sounds good

The second time he wore a helmet camera which was really good footage.

The other stuff was also good clear footage as the fall isn't that far away from where they set up the camera and it is a low volume run. He made a big splash a very loud bang the first time as his landing wasn't spot on.

I've been asked for my take on things here..

Hi Felix - I'm not sure we've met before, so please don't take offence at what I say - I've just been asked to comment on some issues so far.. Hopefully we'll get to meet soon.. Maybe at the Nuernberg HF show this year?

So,

I've not seen the 1st clip of the descent - only the 2nd helmetcam version.. A few questions tho.. I've heard that a couple of ribs were broken during the 1st descent & yet the 2nd descent was only 20 days later - does this mean the 2nd descent was completed with broken ribs? Man that's gotta hurt..

Corran - I totally agree with your comments, especially with regard to injuries from such a height. But as I say, I haven't seen the 1st video & so I can only refer to the 2nd, which seems smoother.

On the 2nd descent the time spent freefalling seems very short to cover 34m..

There is also an impact with rocks just after the descent begins - was the measurement of the fall taken from this impact point? Guinness guidelines are fairly exact on what constitutes a \"pure freefall\" & what a \"waterfall\" (incidentally also on when the angle of a fall gets so low that is considered a \"steep rapid\"). So in this case (if authenticated) overall the fall may constitute a new \"waterfall\" record (official or not) & also, from the point of impact, a new freefall record..

To minimize the effects of fluctuating water levels, the fall needs to be measured as soon as practical before or after the descent & certainly no more than an hour between. Incidentally the same reputable witness should witness both the descent & the height measurement. In the early days of waterfall paddling there was a lot of controversy over \"new records\" (obviously there still is now ;o) Sometimes doing things by the book can help - hassle tho it is.

I'm totally into the soul side of our sport & tho I've taken a lot of flack for ensuring much of the stuff I've done was well filmed & made it to the media/Guinness, by far the majority of my boating is done just for me & never makes it to the press. There's massive merit in both, it's just a shame when doubt surrounds an achievement such as this, cos that's one hell of a drop.

shaunbaker wrote:
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There is also an impact with rocks just after the descent begins - was the measurement of the fall taken from this impact point? Guinness guidelines are fairly exact on what constitutes a \"pure freefall\" & what a \"waterfall\" (incidentally also on when the angle of a fall gets so low that is considered a \"steep rapid\"). So in this case (if authenticated) overall the fall may constitute a new \"waterfall\" record (official or not) & also, from the point of impact, a new freefall record..

Hello Shaun,

take a look on this url

www.waterfall.ch/index.php?N1_ID=177&...D=60&Language=de

You will find some more information on this 34 Meter high waterfall.

Peter Lintner

That pool at the bottom looks mighty small... (and shallow)

kayakSA wrote:

I think the name for a pool like that is: \"ouch!! My spine is smashed!\".
They flow on the video wasn't high and definately not much higher than the flow shown in the pics. Something is up here. I stay with my previous thoughts - Not a chance buddy!!

What are you talking about?

the videos are back online now:

www.bondle.de/Leuenfall_World_Record_200...rld_record_2007.html

and in case you want to know exactly where the falls are:

playak.com/map.php?om=452

let's hear some more comments

Checked out the vid and the pics. The Russians are pulling our legs. If I believe that he broke the record from the evidence i've seen, i have to believe Elvis is growing old in the Mojave desert somewhere. Sorry guys, I for one is not convinced.

Clever...but not really clever enough.
On the seceond run, at the top of the falls, Felix's voice comes from the right of the kayak (presumably as he pushes it over the falls)... and gets ever so quiter as the kayak moves forward
As the kayak hits a rock around mid way through the fall, for some strange reason Felix lets go of the paddle with his left hand...
I think as the kayak hits the water and capsizes, there is a quick edit, and it is felix rolling up.
Good joke, and fairly entertaining...

ALSO! Correct me if i'm mistaken, felix is on his own, surely for this sort of run you would have ATLEAST one person on stand by, if not more.



Just my opinion. Kicks.

Why in the second descent he added some water in his kayak?

He's probabaly putting water in to help the boat fall more vertically or to make an empty boat fall like its full...

Having broken my back landing not all that flat on a 7 metre drop all i can say is that either hes incredibly tough or incredibly lucky.

Record is real!

On the 2nd of January 2007, in the Canton of Appenzell Innerrhoden, Switzerland, Felix Lämmler descended the Leuenfall waterfall in a kayak. The Leuenfall waterfall measures 34 metres in height, which makes his descent the current world record for descending a free-falling waterfall.

Despite his excellent cliff diving and kayaking skills, the descent was only a partial success. Felix survived the impact with a lot of luck and, unfortunately, a few injuries.

His perfectionism, pride and not least the controversial discussions that followed persuaded him to make a second attempt. In the presence of two eyewitnesses and a notary, he repeated the descent on the 20<SUP>th</SUP> of January 2007. The second descent as well as the raw material for the film are legally attested.

We congratulate Felix on these worldwide unique and extraordinary feats.

Recording: The videos were recorded by amateurs. Thank you for your understanding regarding the quality of the sound recording and editing.

Measurement: Leica Vector GIS Laser-Rangefinder. In addition to complex readouts, this equipment provides azimuth, horizontal distance and vertical distance to measure head zone and collision zone with an accuracy of +/- 0.3 m at a usage distance between 15 and 500 m.

means: on this day was a lawyer with him who says that it´s true.

Congratulation Felix!

This is a fake. There is no question about it.

What a load of bull. It's not even a good fake. His spine would be smashed from the flat landing the first time. Who cares if there was a lawyer there. Does that make a difference? NO Nice eddy out on the second run. Why? Just to edit it? Who would Empty their boat or add water before the run? Not me.

Slow motion clip on the first run. Why does the sound on landing sound exactly the same as run in normal speed?? It's a fake. No doubt about it. Too quick a time to the bottom on the second run with the web cam. The pool at the bottom looks way too small too.

Got nothing better to do than waste peoples time? Sure you had fun though. Sure you could do better though..

I'm afraid the Lämmlers descent is a bit shy of the real world record waterfall descent.

www.lemmingkayakers.co.uk/breakingnews.html

www.worldofadventuresports.com/video/index.html

check out the redbull recon video, that's big sh*t and it's been run it's not a fake