I just bought a 2010 allstar and I love it, but the plastic is super thin, and is dare I say squishy. Is this normal, or should I pursue this?

Pretty sure it's normal. Mine seemed super thin when I got it, but you get used to it pretty quick. I think it's a bit thicker on the hull than the top. I usually use mine in the surf and play runs so after a year and a half of owning the boat it's still in good condition.

If you try and use it on steeper rocky rivers that it's not designed for, then I don't think you can complain if you do damage to it. But if you use it for its intended purpose; a playboat, you're going to be fine and it will last quite a while.

p.s. I have a 07 all star, but I'm sure the plastic thickness etc. would be similar.

bondmi6 wrote:

I just bought a 2010 allstar and I love it, but the plastic is super thin, and is dare I say squishy. Is this normal, or should I pursue this?

I don't know, sounds a bit dodgy to me. Maybe post a video of you prodding it with your finger and throw the link up here?

its pretty normal with jacksons, several friends have had issues plugging for a loop and the bow wil hit and fold on their feet. I know of the same happening in at least one pin situation

Pishk wrote:

But if you use it for its intended purpose; a playboat, you're going to be fine and it will last quite a while.

calling something a "Playboat" is no excuse for it to be unsafe.

I noticed that our shops demo all star was also very flimsy on the hull, seems a bit inconsistent because my Super is much more rigid. But damn are these boats fun!

Batayak wrote:

Pishk wrote:

But if you use it for its intended purpose; a playboat, you're going to be fine and it will last quite a while.

calling something a "Playboat" is no excuse for it to be unsafe.

That's your opinion. I don't think it's unsafe for playboating. I have felt a small amount of flex on my feet when I've hit bottom before. I've felt the same in Riot and Dagger playboats. I had a look at a Fluid Nemesis recently, I didn't fit in it but it looked solid as a rock. I think if you try and push any playboat further than what it's designed for it becomes unsafe pretty quickly. Simply because you have limited volume and you don't have proper protection for your feet in case you hit rocks.

Jackson claim to use 'superior' plastics which make their boats stronger. That's what the marketing says. Realistically it's more like they use less of their good plastic to make their boats as strong as other companies playboats. So they're no stronger, but they may be lighter. A good playboat needs to be light, from what I've seen most company's use less plastic in their playboats then their creekers to cut down on weight.

So, is the thin plastic normal? Yes. I prefer the actual metal beam and the hard plastic uprights in the jacksons compared to just foam pillars.

But at the end of the day if you actually believed you were paddling something that was unsafe, get rid of it as soon as possible, no matter what anyone else says.