i have a s/m pyranha 4twenty but im almost 6ft with size 11 feet. But im only 15 so im still pretty light my boat has been giving me trouble even with the seat at its furthest back so im looking for a new boat has anyone got any ideas whichboat will accomidate my size but without adding on the volume- i only weigh about 10stone its nice to have a boat which you can throw around i just need ideas for boats could you help me please
cheers
Eliott

What do you mean by the boat is "giving you trouble".

I'm about 5"10-5"11 (I think) and weigh 78kg's. I recently went from a Riot Disco which I got for cheap to learn a bit on. It has 189L volume, and I couldn't get it up on the nose or the tail in the flat. I found it quite hard to throw around.

I just got a Jackson All-Star which has a volume of 197L. That's an extra 8L on something I couldn't throw around at all. After getting the trim right on my kayak (moved seat back a little to begin with, ended up re-doing happy feat and getting the seat a fair bit further), I am able to consistently get up on my tail without much hassle, and am very close to getting up on my nose. I know I'll be able to get up, but I have very bad technique at the moment. My mate who probably weighs less than you and is smaller had a go and could get up on his nose no worries.

This boat has heaps of room, but due to the design of the kayak, it is easier to throw around than my previous boat which I found very hard, even with MORE volume.

I'm not trying to sell you into a specific boat (I love the design of my new jackson, but have a few question marks on the durability of some of the outfitting, which I'll be emailing jackson about), but I'm just trying to highlight the fact that it's a lot about a boats design, not just fitting into the smallest boat you can. I've also had a quick go in a Dagger Crazy 88 and seemed to have plenty of room and loved it. Quite easy to throw around. Try and demo some boats if you can, hopefully you'll find one that you fit in well, and has a good design so you can still throw it around at your weight.

cheers i thibk i am actually going to try and look for a jackson star... i did not realise they had like foot and leg charts on the site lol
thanks very much
Eliott

I'm not sure I have the conversion correct but, you weigh about 160-170 in lbs? anyways.. your probably going to gain some serious weight if your only 15 within the next couple years. I'm about 6'1",size 10.5 feet,185 lbs and I fit snuggly into the project 52, there's one option. If you want more foot room and like a little more edge like your pyranha, look into the dagger agent 6.2 or kingpin 6.2, and the Jackson all-star is an excellent boat as well (very comfortable).

It sounds like you have grown out of your boat, If you are that tall with size 11 feet then, really get a Allstar, or even the Pyranha Rev M/LONG they made for long legged people. The Star will be similar in size to your boat at present so not a lot of point getting one if you find the 420 too cramped. Also remember to convert shoe sizes you will have US12 feet theyre shoes are one size bigger for gents ie uk 11 Us12 uk 8 Us 9 etc

ye cheers everyone i think i ahv made up my mind about upgrading to a jackson allstar it seems like a perfect boat for me with a bit of weight room as i fill out lol. It would be nice to do a swap lol but i do not think people want to swap a jackson... is there any difference in the early models of the allstar its just jackson go on about the new 1s but they look about the same to me? Anyone know where i can get one second hand cheap anyway?
thanks very much
Eliott

just hack your toes off

eliott.nomads wrote:

is there any difference in the early models of the allstar its just jackson go on about the new 1s but they look about the same to me?
Eliott

do not go with anything lower than 2007.. Jackson Kayak, like many kayak companies, keep a model for a specified number of years. Jackson changes their models every three years. so with buying a 2006 model your essentially buying a 2003 boat, the plastic is awesome and the design is alright, but not great. From what I heard and know, the 2006 and lower are slow and not very loose on a wave when compared with the newer models and compared to WS, DAGGER, and others... plus, the 2007+ comes with happy feet and sweet cheeks (a $100 deal.) Go with a 2007 JK all-star, one year older but same boat as the 2009 JK.